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作者: zh4162003 时间: 2007-4-10 05:40 标题: 毕业后的去向

请问斑竹了
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以你所知。在mbs毕业之后是否容易找到工作在英国或欧盟都可以？？据说曼大的就业搞得很不错但是有人说在英国读隔一年的授课硕士是不可能在英国找到工作的你的看法？？我是大学一毕业就走的因此没有什么工作经验。

作者: charlie 时间: 2007-4-11 11:25

MBS虽然是英国前3商学院。( a3 w& m! @4 V# ^

但是工作不好找。英国哪个商学院的都不好找。但是确实有一小批中国人找到了工作，而且都还不错。
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商学院现在你进去之后，毕业可以留1年找工作。有机会的！！

作者: dreaming 时间: 2007-4-11 15:20

我又来问题外话了...真是不好意思...嘿嘿...

是不是说在英格兰地区毕业后会再有一年时间让你留下来..即使你没找到工作???
苏格兰地区两年....是这样吗???
还是说留下来的一年或两年也是要有条件的???
谢谢..

作者: charlie 时间: 2007-4-11 15:31

可以留. 是给你找工作的.

作者: charlie 时间: 2007-4-11 15:32

无条件. 但是之后你的必须找到工作,否则回国.其间你可以做任何事情.

作者: dreaming 时间: 2007-4-11 15:34

哦~~~是这样子..9 x4 Z+ w! U0 ]8 H
那至少并不是匆匆读完一年书就马上回来...多出一年可以多了解些..也有更多机会..
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谢谢站长的及时回答..谢谢

作者: charlie 时间: 2007-4-11 15:54

原帖由 dreaming 于 2007-4-11 15:34 发表
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不客气。

你们毕业之后现在都有机会申请SEGS签证。可以留英1年。

作者: zh4162003 时间: 2007-4-12 01:45 标题: 回复 #2 charlie 的帖子

谢谢以后又问题还要向你请教。2 r$ f/ G! T- L# P: P
我的住宿申请表已经交过去了这样是不是就不能改自己原来申请的宿舍了阿

作者: charlie 时间: 2007-4-12 02:05

原帖由 zh4162003 于 2007-4-12 01:45 发表 % \( U: p. i, D0 a8 _( d+ ?# A
谢谢以后又问题还要向你请教。) Y% m$ ~7 W' B3 O; {: e6 C) w& V% W
我的住宿申请表已经交过去了这样是不是就不能改自己原来申请的宿舍了阿

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你可以发信。

那个住宿部的服务态度，是坏出了名的。赫赫。

作者: dreaming 时间: 2007-4-13 06:59

那SEGS签证难申请吗？! S3 I. r( E+ h* D8 w
还是说只要符合条件，比如说你获得了学位，就可以申请了？？？
谢谢

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作者: charlie 时间: 2007-4-13 12:41

yeah. but if you are undergraduate you have to be over 2:2. 3 y* Z0 ^) `0 @2 s
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If master, that's fine. Just require your successful graduation of your degree

作者: lynncd 时间: 2007-4-13 15:43

不知道文科类的比如翻译啥的能找到工作么？？

作者: sam 时间: 2007-4-13 21:04

原帖由 lynncd 于 2007-4-13 15:43 发表
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回国当老师

作者: lynncd 时间: 2007-4-14 11:14

啊。。。不会吧，在那不能找到啥工作么，翻译啥的。。。

作者: 云淡风轻 时间: 2007-4-14 11:38

原帖由 charlie 于 2007-4-13 12:41 发表
6 D4 I9 x& a% U/ uyeah. but if you are undergraduate you have to be over 2:2. 1 p5 K4 I; z1 H: Q! B( {* K: D4 p

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have to be over 2:2? sure?

作者: charlie 时间: 2007-4-14 12:18

For SEGS, yeah, undergraduate has to be over 2:2. Master is fine.

作者: 云淡风轻 时间: 2007-4-14 13:25

Information about the International Graduates SchemeThe international Graduates Scheme (IGS) will be launched on 1 May 2007. It will replace the Science and Engineering Graduates Scheme. It enables non-EEA students who have successfully completed and obtained a degree, Master’s degree, PhD, or postgraduate certificate or diploma on or after 1 May 2007 to work in the UK for up to 12 months upon completion of their studies. If they want to remain in the UK beyond this time, they can switch into an appropriate immigration category to pursue their career, provided they meet the relevant requirements. What is the International Graduates Scheme? * I$ E) i2 U: o5 m8 i
The International Graduates Scheme (IGS) will be launched on 1 May 2007 with the aim of encouraging graduates of UK further or higher education establishments to pursue a career in the United Kingdom. Those who complete their courses on or after 1 May 2007 can apply regardless of the subject they have studied. Those who finished their courses before 1 May 2007 may still apply under the old Science and Engineering Graduate Scheme rules. $ P- {% d6 a4 J( }7 y
IGS is a transitional route which enables students who have studied in the UK to access the labour market and gain work experience in the UK.
During their leave under IGS participants can take any type of employment or self-employment. If they want to remain here beyond their leave under IGS in order to pursue their career, they can switch into various employment or self-employment categories, if they meet the relevant requirements. . e  S* |/ d+ X9 ~& o
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To be granted leave under the scheme, applicants must (amongst other things):
• have successfully completed a relevant course at a recognised or listed UK institution of Higher or Further Education on or after 1 May 2007. A relevant course is: 6 U/ A5 `8 z% s1 Q4 R% X* X
• a Bachelor’s degree course; OR
• a Master's or PhD course; OR ) K$ A3 K7 u! ~6 l% Y# `9 \
• a postgraduate certificate or diploma. And must:
• have completed their course in the last 12 months (as shown by the date of expiry of leave as a Student to complete this course) : s$ X/ |# Q' H' I/ s* B
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• be able to maintain and accommodate themselves and any dependants without recourse to public funds;
• intend to leave the UK at the end of their stay (unless granted leave as a work permit holder, highly skilled migrant, business person, innovator or student).

Does it matter what course I have studied?
If you completed your course on or after 1 May 2007 you can apply regardless of which course you studied. If you finished your course before 1 May 2007 it is still possible to apply, but your application will be considered under the conditions of the Science and Engineering Graduate Scheme rules, which placed certain limitations on which courses were eligible (see below).

How do I know if the institution at which I studied is ‘recognised’ or ‘listed’? $ f1 `9 N. w: j  Z+ E: z5 }
The UK authorities recognise those institutions that can offer degrees by virtue of their own degree awarding powers (recognised bodies) or those powers of another institution (listed bodies). A full list of recognised and listed UK further and higher education institutions is available on the Department for Education and Skills website at www.dfes.gov.uk/recognisedukdegree

What if I have studied a PGCE?
Those who have completed a PGCE (Post Graduate Certificate in Education) at recognised or listed UK institution of further or higher education are eligible. Holders of postgraduate certificates and diplomas obtained from a recognised or listed body in any subject matter are eligible.

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Applicants can apply for IGS before they are issued with their degree certificate. If they do not have a degree certificate, they can provide a letter from their institution confirming that they have completed the course at the required level. ( H# [/ [% Y, x# l$ v

What if I finished my course before 1 May 2007 and was planning to apply for the Science and Engineering Graduates Scheme?
You should apply on the IGS form, but your application will be considered under the conditions of the Science and Engineering Graduates Scheme (SEGS) as it existed on 30 April 2007. 2 R8 |  v5 h2 l3 P" T% j* e
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• have successfully completed a relevant course at a recognised or listed UK institution of Higher or Further Education. A relevant course is: ( ^4 @+ {/ i# U
• a degree course (with second class honours (2.2) or higher), Master’s or PhD on the relevant list of physical science, mathematics and engineering courses approved by the Department for Education and Skills (DfES) for the purposes of this scheme. And must
• Have completed their course in the last 12 months (as shown by the date of expiry of leave as a Student to complete this course)
• intend to work during the period of leave granted under the scheme
• be able to maintain and accommodate themselves and any dependants without recourse to public funds;
• intend to leave the UK at the end of their stay (unless granted leave as a work permit holder, highly skilled migrant, business person or innovator). ( e& |& c* ?8 B& o% \5 c: X
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How do I know if my course is eligible under SEGS?
The list of courses approved by the Department for Education and Skills (DfES) is available below.
The List of courses for those receiving their results from 1 May 2005 to 30 April 2007 (98 kb)
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How do I find out my course’s JACS code?
Your personal tutor or another member of your university's staff will be able to provide you with your course's JACS code.
I commenced a Master’s or PhD, in a subject not on the DfES list, after 1 May 2006. I completed it before 1 May 2007. Can I still qualify for leave under IGS?
Yes, applicants who have completed a Master’s or PhD, regardless of the subject, commenced after 1 May 2006 and completed before 1 May 2007, can qualify for leave under IGS (provided they also meet the other requirements in the rules). * t% L$ ]3 h% S& r
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What if my studies have been sponsored (for example by a government or international scholarship agency?
Applicants who have been sponsored by a government or international scholarship agency will need to obtain written permission from their sponsor before applying for IGS.
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Can I switch into the scheme without leaving the UK?
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Alternatively you can apply to return to the UK from abroad under the scheme no later than one year after you complete your course (as shown by the date your relevant leave as a student expires). Entry clearance is mandatory for those returning to the UK under the scheme.

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There are no restrictions on the type of work you can do as an IGS participant.

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If dependants are applying from abroad, then entry clearance is mandatory.

How can I apply for the scheme?
You will need to complete an application form. To apply for the scheme while you are in the UK with leave as a student, you should get form FLR(IGS). The address to send your completed application form to and details of the required fee are on the application form, along with details of the documentation you need to submit to demonstrate that you meet the relevant criteria. 1 p5 r8 c7 \) ?" q1 F$ |
This will be available from the "all forms" section of this website when the scheme launches on 1 May 2007. : k0 ?* `  b4 F5 ~
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I studied in the UK, but I'm not eligible for IGS. Can I still stay on and work here after I complete my studies? If you want to remain in the UK after your studies to work then you will need to switch into a different category of leave. 8 m- j5 A6 W! U# K
The Immigration Rules enable those students who have got a degree-level qualification or above from a relevant UK institution to switch into leave as a work permit holder, highly skilled migrant, business person or innovator.
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作者: 云淡风轻 时间: 2007-4-14 13:28

原帖由 charlie 于 2007-4-14 12:18 发表
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yes, it is. that's for SEGS. thanks.

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作者: admin 时间: 2007-4-14 13:31

No sure about the new scheme, pls check the home office website. But SEGS it is.

作者: localbean 时间: 2007-4-18 04:00

what about the engineering.which area do we most probably work in after graduated from university.

作者: zh4162003 时间: 2007-4-19 11:44 标题: 回复 #2 charlie 的帖子

charlie. 你好啊烦请你帮我打听一下运营管理专业的前辈问他们这个专业的实习是不是由学院提供公司？？？还有一般提供什么样的公司实习。。。万分感谢你。

作者: charlie 时间: 2007-4-19 13:24

原帖由 localbean 于 2007-4-18 04:00 发表
) t& H+ ?8 ?& ?. P( c0 s: L b/ awhat about the engineering.which area do we most probably work in after graduated from university.

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you go back to china or stay in the uk.
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if in the uk, could be in the company...enterprise...factory, could also do research...etc.

作者: charlie 时间: 2007-4-19 13:25

原帖由 zh4162003 于 2007-4-19 11:44 发表
0 H* q9 h5 f0 h. Wcharlie. 你好啊烦请你帮我打听一下运营管理专业的前辈问他们这个专业的实习是不是由学院提供公司？？？还有一般提供什么样的公司实习。。。万分感谢你。

Currently I know nobody in this major. But will try to tell you as soon as I know.

作者: jien 时间: 2007-4-20 00:41

原帖由 zh4162003 于 2007-4-19 11:44 发表
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确定有实习吗？我貌似在网上没查到....
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据说今年本来有一个参观欧莱雅的机会，不过后来据说因故取消了。

作者: cutie78726 时间: 2007-5-1 07:03

急问~~以前看到一贴说曼大的翻译很难我收到了con offer（translation and interpreting），语言成绩不够。。。但是我更担心是不是难到很难拿学位？: e6 u4 D9 G, B: _
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有时间回答一下谢谢啦

作者: charlie 时间: 2007-5-1 12:09

Don't worry, as I know somebody who passed all the courses. If you work hard, you can pass.7 G7 x2 b/ u" F3 X, U. @" ?

But, to be honest, it is not easy for you to look for a job here, for any course. The course you mentioned is also not easy. By the way, it is not easy to study as well when comparing with other courses such as law.

作者: 爬来爬去 时间: 2007-5-2 20:06

哎........回国到菜市场摆个摊子卖茶叶蛋好了...

作者: 落以歲沫然 时间: 2007-5-2 23:06

呵呵 , 卖菜的不都有清华毕业的了么?

作者: 落以歲沫然 时间: 2007-5-2 23:07

有谁上学期间申请过 placement?

作者: 爬来爬去 时间: 2007-5-3 13:38

我申请过..但是没人要...

作者: 爬来爬去 时间: 2007-5-3 13:38

PLACEMENT太黑了...学校赚的比我还多...

作者: holydolly 时间: 2007-5-10 19:14

INTERN去哪里做比较好啊。。。。不想去当打杂的

作者: Kevin 时间: 2007-5-23 16:16

谈到找工作，我血压就高。, {9 V8 x5 ]% b4 f c$ T

哎，人啊......

作者: 海冲天 时间: 2007-5-26 00:41

IGS 是本科也可以申请的，今年新出的，LZ你去仔细看看，但要求成绩2。2
SEGS 是MASTER的，但好象有2。1的成绩要求。。我不是很了解

如果比较看中工作经验的话，我介意你本科毕业申请IGS，然后去苏格兰读一年MASTER，苏格兰的fresh talent scheme有两年，但要在苏格兰范围内工作（偷偷说``但不说谁知道呢，签证拿下来就好）

作者: 海冲天 时间: 2007-5-26 00:43

原帖由 云淡风轻 于 2007-4-14 14:28 发表
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IGS还是要的，要2。2``上面写着呢，不仔细看，打你屁屁

作者: 云淡风轻 时间: 2007-5-26 00:51

原帖由 海冲天 于 2007-5-26 01:43 发表 8 k6 H0 W" o6 g+ T
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IGS还是要的，要2。2``上面写着呢，不仔细看，打你屁屁

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那个是去年的政策了。What if I finished my course before 1 May 2007 and was planning to apply for the Science and Engineering Graduates Scheme?

今年这个新政策是没有这个要求的。。。

作者: 海冲天 时间: 2007-6-3 18:57

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今天终于把IGS的东西重新看了一遍
IGS不要求成绩``只要毕业就可以了``

作者: dipever 时间: 2007-6-3 19:36

原帖由 charlie 于 2007-4-11 12:25 发表 " w: {( l+ ~& q4 R
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但是工作不好找。英国哪个商学院的都不好找。但是确实有一小批中国人找到了工作，而且都还不错。7 k* k+ i" }7 I/ R* Y% l

. ?2 {. B& f0 r; U商学院现在你进去之后，毕业可以留1年找工作。有机会的！！

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别总前3前3的，MBS之所以好是因为它的MBA，能进去的人基本上不用担心工作问题，其他的也就是辅助专业，人家招聘时根本不看你是什么学校，个人能力是主要问题，跟你什么学校毕业的根本没关系。要说有关系的也就是回国能装装。cranfield根本不进排名，国内也没几个人知道，但能进去的，出来根本不愁工作，你都不用去找，而是选！！！0 [ w$ h( r! H+ i

所以了，别总是强调什么排名，关键看专业的好坏，为了一个虚名不值得。每个学校都有自己的强项，学校好不代表你的专业好，更不代表毕业会好。

作者: trevor 时间: 2008-8-25 22:17 标题: 回复 38# 职务：超级版主的帖子

cranfield 那么nb么
怪不得把我拒了

作者: karen0121 时间: 2008-9-13 12:10

弱弱的问一句。。。cranfield是什么专业啊？？

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